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04 Dec 2018 22:35 PST
My reply to your comment
Micah deleted my reply to your comment. I was able to save it though. Here it is:
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Well, of course. Why else would we be here? It's more than that for me, and I suspect many more people here than would like to admit it. Don't worry, I've never actually touched a kid in that manner, and have no plans to. I am attracted to kids, though, and I don't think it's inherently wrong to act on those attractions. It certainly wouldn't be wrong if it were legal. But, like I said, it isn't legal, and I don't have any desire to go to prison or to put a kid through the hell of being seen as a "sexual abuse victim" for their whole life. If the world was different, we could all have our fun, consensually, of course, but as it is it definitely isn't a risk to be taken lightly.
Sex is a good, positive thing, and should be seen as such. Hands on instruction in the joys of sex should be seen as a wonderful bonding experience. I hope one day our world becomes one where all can truly be happy like that. I think that in some ways, though we were closer to that 40 years ago then we are now. The one bad thing about the acceptence of homosexuality is that it fully seperated homosexuality and pedophilia in the minds of everyone, gay and straight. From what I've seen of old gay culture, the difference between attraction to men and attraction to boys was not fully established, and I've heard old gay men happily reminence about their first sexual expierences when they were boys, but their partners were definitely men.
I think the HIV/AIDS scare is partially to blame. I mean, how can we have our children having sex if it could literally kill them. I honestly think we'd be closer to the sex-positivity that I want if HIV never existed. Maybe we need to be able to trivially cure HIV before we can really go down that path, that path we might have went down over a generation ago if a gorilla virus hadn't mutated to be able to effect humans.
Maybe my understanding of history is flawed. I am only 20. Either way, my point stands. Sex isn't bad and age shouldn't matter. If it makes everyone involved feel good, that should be enough. Of course, the laws as they are make it more complicated than that, but in a better world, one that I honestly think is possible, everyone, young and old, can be truly free.
-Adam
(Long rant is long)
Edit: I see that your icon is an andalite. Animorphs is criminally underrated,
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I just decided to send it incase you want to reply. I would love to hear your opinion.
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05 Dec 2018 02:52 PST
Re: My reply to your comment
You make a valid point, but in all honesty I am not attracted to real life kids. I have tried looking at them in a sexual way, and still fantasize about my wife and I giving our future kids hands-on Sex Ed lessons. But my pædophilia only extends to fictional children.
Although, on a different note, my sexual atteaction to Animals definitely extends to real life; which making love to Animals is far less risky.
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05 Dec 2018 03:15 PST
That's interesting to hear. I'm sure many people who like cubs try their hardest not to look at real life kids in a sexual way, and to heat that you tried the opposite is quite enlightening. I guess some people really do only like it in fantasy.
Making love to animals is definitely a-ok. Anyone who tells you any different just doesn't understand. Of course, consent is necessary, but the whole idea of "informed consent" is just malformed when it comes to animals. Literally all they need to understand is that it feels good. They'll never need to understand anything different.
Here's something probably more controversial that builds on that. There are humans who are severly mentally handicapped. Now, I'm not talking about vegetables who can't even move, I'm talking about mobile, walking people who will never advance past "baby" stage. They will never learn to talk. You might see where this is going. They are basically in the same position as non-human animals. Because they will never really be able to understand, and can't tell on accident either. Also, just because they are "retarded" doesn't mean they don't have libido. They go through puberty just like everybody else. So, basically, I don't think it is wrong to do sexual stuff with people like that, it's basically tantamount to zoophilia. So long as everyone is willing, of course. Because they're like that for their whole life, it doesn't really matter when the relationship begins. The only real danger is them trying to initiate something with others around. While with a dog, this can usually be laughed off, it might present more problems in this situation.
Them being less disabled to the point where they are able to talk presents a problem. While I still don't think it's wrong, it presents the same problem as a young child. They can "tell." It could very well be accidental, but it would be disastrous. Of course, the lack of comprehension might make the consequences of being caught less damaging to the person, but it still would be bad,
I know it might seem bad to be comparing disabled people to animals, but I don't mean it in a bad way. Animals are simply the best comparison for beings that can enjoy sex but never "understand" it in a human way. Of course, animals understand sex well enough to use it to reproduce, but I bet intlectually disabled people do too. Put a group of them on an island with ample food and water, and I bet a population could be sustained for multiple generations.
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31 Dec 2018 01:04 PST
Hey, hope I didn't scare you off. I know some of the things that I said may come off as bad or creepy, but I didn't mean them that way.
When I talk about kids or intellectually disabled people "telling" being bad. I don't mean that they shouldn't seek help if they really are being abused. I was just talking in cases where they are in a good situation and enjoy the sex a lot, and they're treated really well and like people as opposed to sex objects, but it might accidentally slip out. It might even slip out because of how good of a thing they think it is. Kids love to tell others about things that make them happy.
Also, the reason people finding out is bad is not just because the pedophile or able-minded person would go to jail, of probably greater importance is the pain the kid/ disabled person would go through being treated like a victim, and being told they were abused when they knew they weren't.
People who actually use and abuse kids and disabled people for sex absolutely deserve everything they get. I'm only talking about positive non-abusive situations.
Also, when talked about putting disabled people on an island, it was only to make the point that they'd probably be able to figure out how to use sex to reproduce. I would never condone doing such a thing. hat'd be evil and disgusting.
I'm just sending this because you haven't replied in a long time, and I think I probably freaked you out.
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